Did you like Troy?

[DanTheManPR]

I couldn't enjoy watching this movie, because the theater was so damn cold. Sitting in a forty-degree theater for three hours is not a pleasent :mad:

I'll leave it to you guys to tell me if the movie was good or not.

[RHooks]

Dude. It just started today.

[DanTheManPR]

I saw it yesterday

[Eddie Ismail]

I'd like to watch this movie, if it gets goodv reviews, I'll go with my GF, my best friend and her boyfriend.

[Cougar]

dang this movies looks cool. hehe good thing im going to see it at RAVE motion pictures. its the best place to enjoy a three hour movies...might i also mention 48inches of foot room in between each chair.

[MasterChief]

I work at the aforementioned theater so I was in and out of audotoriums showing troy all night. Battle scenes looked pretty cool, though the dialogue was pretty corny..had me cringing quite a bit.

[Shardos]

I loved the movie :D:

[Shaolin K]

Just saw it last night. I liked it a lot. I've always loved the ancient Greek history/mythology so this was a particularly nice treat for me. The battles were great and gigantic in scale, the acting was good for the most part, and the story.........well I won't give it away.

If you like epic tales, big battles and lots of surprises, I can only suggest you go out and watch this excellent movie.

[Chylde Roland]

Good to hear! Me and my g/f are going to see it in a couple of hours, so I"m glad folks here are liking it.

[Bruenor]

Yep, I liked it a lot too. Good summer movie.

[Kalbrecht]

I both despised and loved this movie.

SPOILER POSSIBILITIES, although this is such an ancient tale. Also warning for Ancient History nerd.

Good: EXCELLENT battle scenes. Some good charaterisations of the heroes (Hector and Paris particularly). The art direction and costumes were magnificent. Did I mention the fighting? Great stuff. A possibly good/bad thing - based on whether you like this: it really felt like an old epic style movie from the Harryhausen, Cleopatra days - lots of orchestra, cheesy feel, lots of posing etc. Sean Bean as Odysseus. Eric Bana as Hector.

Bad: WARNING DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER! (There, you've been warned of nerdity and spoilers)

They screwed with the history and the characters. I mean, really. The people who LIVE at the end? NO. NO. NO. I can understand a focus on Achilles, but they screwed with the story just so the 'right' people could live (Paris not only does NOT live, but does not deserve to live). Aeneas, one of the greatest heroes of the entire War, and one of the most important figures in Ancient history, became a one face person who wasn't even known by the others (Aeneas was one of the generals of Troy, and led the refugees away on their own journey, in the end founding one of the great Italian cities that was an integral part of Roman culture and imperial history). I did not like that Ancient Greece looked like this mighty Empire coming to crush a single city, when in reality Troy had some major allies and many heroes of her own, NOT just Hector, as awesome as he was. The deaths and the destruction of Troy were given no justice - Ajax, Achilles (the side story of Briseas annoyed me). 14 days (of which only 3 were spent fighting) to destroy this seemingly impregnable city? GRAAAH!

There. I even made it smaller so you can skip my rant. ;)

[Lou Cypher]

I'll have to agree with you Kalbrecht, even though my knowledge of this period is sparse, even I knew that the siege of Troy was Ten years. IMO it would have been easy to fit that little info into the movie, but all in all I see it having trouble recooping it's $200,000,000 price tag.

Lou :globe:

[Chylde Roland]

Welp, I really enjoyed it. I expected some "fancy moves" to happen with things, as always happens when Hollywood gets its mitts on something like this. I went in with no real expectations, so I wasn't disappointed.

This is one that I will buy on DVD when it comes out.

Also, I don't know if you all saw the trailers I saw, but it looks like we could have a very good summer season this year: King Arthur, Chronicles of Riddick, Constantine... just to name a few!

[Captain]

I just saw it a few hours ago, I really enjoyed it. From what I had heard from friends I wasn't expecting anything fantastic, but I really did like this movie a lot.
Yeah, I saw some neat trailers too Chlyde, a lot for this summer and some for fall/winter. The one I am looking most forward to would probably be Ocean's Twelve.

[Bruenor]

To be fair Kalbrecht, this movie wasn't really intended to be anything more than your typical summer action movie using a historical event as it's backdrop.

As a pure summer movie, it succeeds marvelously. If you go in expecting anything resembling historical accuracy, then you will walk away disappointed.

[Mara]

For those interested in Hollywood v. History

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3217961/

[Kalbrecht]

To be fair Kalbrecht, this movie wasn't really intended to be anything more than your typical summer action movie using a historical event as it's backdrop.

As a pure summer movie, it succeeds marvelously. If you go in expecting anything resembling historical accuracy, then you will walk away disappointed.

I've gotta say though that I was really disappointed in it as a more simple movie, as well.

The script had major holes and flaws in it that didn't give the actors anything to do except be brooding. Brad Pitt and Eric Bana did this well, and Sean Bean looked like he had fun, but the others were criminally misused. If you're going to make a typical summer movie, the target audience isn't going to care about Peter O'Toole, let alone even know who he is.

The whole thing was constructed like an old Spartacus style movie, but to me, lacked the flair and melodramatic passion of those days.

I'll compare it to Van Helsing, which I watched 2 days before. Now that was a classic summer Hollywood movie. The script zinged with character, the actors got to brood (I'm not even going to try and claim that the acting was good, though), yet interact well. The chemistry was there. Fighting was present, was great fun to watch and the costumes and art were spectacular. And the perve factor? Through the roof.

Historically it was very very laughable. Literature-wise, it was even more of a rape of the mythos than Troy. I was shocked by the combination of Dr Frankenstein, the Wolfman explanations and all sorts of script flaws. And yet I enjoyed it. It was fun.

So what was the difference? I think the main difference was that Troy felt like 2 movies - 1 was a Hollywood blockbuster with brooding heroes duelling with barely enough story to bring them together time and again to match eyebrows. The other movie was an epic action-drama-talkie combining religion, cultural commentary, old men vs rebellious youth, family, and pride. The jumping between them didn't work for me. Some can combine it, others just don't gel.

[RHooks]

The whole thing was constructed like an old Spartacus style movie, but to me, lacked the flair and melodramatic passion of those days.


Everything made today lacks the flair and melodramatic passion of those days.

:(:

I'm Spartacus!!

:wink:

[0x64657200 0x6A61636B616C00]

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If you're going to make a typical summer movie, the target audience isn't going to care about Peter O'Toole, let alone even know who he is.

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Sad that it's come to such a pass....very sad indeed.

/Now summoning Bridge on the River Kwai; Did anybody know that Alec Guiness was in a lot of great movies BEFORE Star Wars? Seriously, he WAS!

[RHooks]

Sir Alec Guiness was a great actor. As is Peter O'Toole. Most of these guys they dump in movies today aren't even fit to be a patch on their ass.

One of the saddest things I've heard said at the Academy Awards was during O'Toole's acceptance of his honorary Oscar. The bit where he said "I'd always hoped to win one of these on my own." Damned shame that he didn't and pretty unlikely that he's going to at this point.

Hey. I think we jacked this thread.

[0x64657200 0x6A61636B616C00]

He got Oscar shafted on his Lawrence of Arabia performance.

/threadjacking_off

[Terry Penrod]

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O'Toole got shafted by the Oscar voters a number of times throughout his long, illustrious acting career.

From Laurence of Arabia, Becket and Lord Jim in his early years to Lion in Winter and Goodbye, Mr. Chips a few years later to The Stunt Man, My Favorite Year and Creator in the latter stages of his career - he was one of the most underrated, overlooked film actors in the world for nearly five decades.

For anyone interested in seeing his complete filmography, go to:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000564/

Sir Alec Guiness had an even longer and some would say more distinguished acting career on stage and on film.

His filmography can be viewed at:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000027/

Both were tops in my book.

Cheers, Terry

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[Bruenor]

That's fair Kalbrecht. You obviously have a well thought out opinion of the movie and I am definitely in no position to counter your position since Greek mythos\history is not something I am knowledgable about, and I only go to 3 movies a year.

I guess I'm just easy to please.

[Kalbrecht]

Sad that it's come to such a pass....very sad indeed.

/Now summoning Bridge on the River Kwai; Did anybody know that Alec Guiness was in a lot of great movies BEFORE Star Wars? Seriously, he WAS!

Sir Alec Guiness is a figment of your imagination. There is only Obi-Wan!

*reminisces about the golden days of acting*

Bruenor: no problem. I'm anally retentive for movie quality. And combine it with ancient history nerd and you get a lot of nitpicking :p

[Terry Penrod]

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Oh, then I must've been thinking about the stout.

Cheers, Terry

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[DanTheManPR]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040524l.jpg

[Kalbrecht]

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Oh, then I must've been thinking about the stout.

Cheers, Terry

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As the saying goes:

That's SIR Alec GUINNESS to you!

;)