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Gary V.
May 1st, 2004, 01:44 am
I'm sure many of you have heard and seen pictures of Iraqi prisoners mistreated by U.S. soldiers. It is the sickest, most abhorrent thing I have witnessed in quite some time. We will pay big time for this atrocity. The Arab world is going to go nuts over this.

I almost feel a public execution of the soldiers involved is called for. I am absolutely mortified, especially as I am veteran. What a stain on the military and American people.

When I saw the pictures I got sick to my stomach and had to sit down. I hope and pray the American people voice outrage and demand harsh and swift punishment.

Innocent people are inevitably going to die due to this cowardly act. What a terrible, terrible travesty.

Fzoulcmbyl
May 1st, 2004, 02:01 am
For those of us who haven't heard or seen these pictures or stories...can you say where you read about it, and saw this?

Either a Link to a credible site, or if it was a program on TV, which one?


Thanks,


Fzoul

Bruenor
May 1st, 2004, 02:27 am
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/30/iraq.photos/index.html

Pretty sick if you ask me.

Circlebreaker
May 1st, 2004, 04:31 am
This has actually already been posted here (http://forums.gamers.org/showthread.php?t=437). :thumbup:

Anyway, this is going to cost the US a lot of goodwill with the Iraqi people, unfortunately, and will only make the peace process a lot more difficult, if not outright impossible.

To be honest, I'm not that surprised that it happened. How many soldiers are there fighting in Iraq? 250,000 or something? There are bound to be some rotten apples in between them, and war does funny stuff with people. That doesn't mean I don't find it an outrage what happened though.

What is almost as bad as what happened is that the US governement tried to cover it up at first. CBS news hold these pictures for over two weeks before making them public under pressure from the governement, and even then only released them because they got leaked on the internet.

DejaFu
May 1st, 2004, 06:29 am
still extremely wrong

Nova
May 1st, 2004, 08:58 am
I hope these guys get severely punished. Way to throw more oil in the fire :mad:

OldsterHolster
May 1st, 2004, 10:44 am
This whole episode really bothered me, too. Its impossible to hold the higher moral ground and behave like this at the same time. Its basically the same behavior as when they mutilated and drug the bodies of our soldiers through the streets of Fallujah, and we are supposed to be fighting against exactly this kind of cruelty. No wonder the world hates us!

The only ray of light in the whole mess is that the information did get out, despite some evidence that some tried to suppress it, and now the outrage of our own citizens, as well as the rest of the world, will initiate changes and punishment of the guilty parties so that it will remain clear that this is not what we believe in and will not happen again.

I can usually identify or relate in some way or another to people's shortcomings and mistakes, and I try to understand what leads to them; but there's no excuse for this. No matter how young, stupid, stressed, or misguided these low-lifes might be, they are supposedly trained military personnel; and, as such, they represent what this country believes in and fights for. They have embarrassed the country and severely compromised our already bruised image to the rest of the world. What really scares me is that this animalistic mentality seems all too common, these days, and "mean" is even glorified in many ways. I'd like to think that its just my age and decreasing tolerance, but its hard not to think that, in the everlasting battle between good and evil, evil is scoring a lot of points in today's world. Edward.

Cougar
May 1st, 2004, 11:24 am
they should have not done that. Completely inappropriate!

Gaim Mastr
May 1st, 2004, 01:06 pm
Well, this doesn't look good at all.

Bush needing to spin this whole Iraq fiasco in a better light to help ensure his re-election has almost certainly made private demands that severe examples are made of any found guilty of that crap.

And in this one instance, I'd support that decision.

Emjayex
May 3rd, 2004, 06:24 am
It's not just the US troops who've been misbehaving in Iraq. It looks like our guys have been naughty too...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3679177.stm

:mad:

DejaFu
May 3rd, 2004, 05:40 pm
its not just us and uk troops its been a bunch of random countries. they kill ours we torture theres.