Militants vow war...

[RangerRick]

How many wars are they going to vow? :rolleyes:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14888444/

[mandrake]

Well, at least this time it's a result of actual human comments and not a cartoon.

[Rafal Dudek]

Wooooo religion of peace strikes again!

This is becoming stupid. These Muslim extremists just trying to find any reason they can to continue their murdering spree.

Any righteous living Muslim should denounce all the murdering and help stop those extremists because all they do is glorifying that Islam is all about murdering the westerners.

[mandrake]

Wooooo religion of peace strikes again!

This is becoming stupid. These Muslim extremists just trying to find any reason they can to continue their murdering spree.

Any righteous living Muslim should denounce all the murdering and help stop those extremists because all they do is glorifying that Islam is all about murdering the westerners.

You mean, the infidels? :rolleyes:

[RangerRick]

You mean, the infidels? :rolleyes:

“You infidels and despots, we will continue our jihad (holy war) and never stop until God avails us to chop your necks and raise the fluttering banner of monotheism, when God’s rule is established governing all people and nations,” said the statement by the Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups in Iraq.

I think China better watch out as well, based on the remark here.

In Iran, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei used the comments to call for protests against the United States. He argued that while the pope may have been deceived into making his remarks, the words give the West an “excuse for suppressing Muslims” by depicting them as terrorists.

It's all the U.S.'s fault :rolleyes:


So far, protests over the pope’s comments have been smaller. However, there has been some violence: Attackers hurled firebombs at seven churches in the West Bank and Gaza Strip over the weekend, and a nun was shot to death in Somalia.

Which only actually gives credence to the quote.

Islamic countries also asked the U.N. Human Rights Council to examine the question of religious tolerance. Malaysia’s foreign minister, Syed Hamid Albar, said Benedict’s apology was “inadequate to calm the anger.”

Tolerance? TOLERANCE!?!?

And how many of the Islamic countries do not allow other religions?

When that changes, then he could possibly make a statement like that.

And as I asked in another thread, where are these leaders, who can speak up when someone makes a comment about their being evil, but, none of these so called leaders speak up about the killings their own people commit with the suicide bombers.

Shouldn't they be saying how the Koran doesn't support these types of acts?

The bombings also gives credence to what the pope had said.

[OmegaBob]

Not that I care either way about the Pope's taken-out-of-context speech, but....

…doesn't the actions, protests & threats give credence to what the Pope had to say?

[RangerRick]

Not that I care either way about the Pope's taken-out-of-context speech, but....

…doesn't the actions, protests & threats give credence to what the Pope had to say?

Bingo! We have a winner!

Give that man a kewpi doll!! :yes: :yes: :yes:

Now, do the CNN's, CNBC's,and other alphabet news moguls have the gonads to infer this as the case?

[OmegaBob]

As a prize, I desire $200,000,000 in disposeable bearer bonds.

GIMME!

[Shoboy]

Bingo! We have a winner!

Give that man a kewpi doll!! :yes: :yes: :yes:

Now, do the CNN's, CNBC's,and other alphabet news moguls have the gonads to infer this as the case?

No. cause they are all a bunch of pansy a** sissies........cant go pissing off the muslims now, they are so sensitive :(3:

[Eyegor]

Yes, following the furore of the Pope's speech, there were all sorts of banner-waving protests by Islamic groups here in the UK, burning effigies of the Pope, swearing oaths of death etc etc...

And we put up with this???!!!...how long would I last doing the same thing in an Islamic country, threatening to assassinate their religious leader?

Come to think of it, if I acted the same way in my own country, I would be swiftly arrested. As Shoboy said, we bend over way-too-far backwards to accommodate, all in the name of tolerance and fear of causing offence.

[Kingfisher]

"All your backbone are belong to us"

~Ancient Muslim Proverb

[Eddie Ismail]

"doesn't the actions, protests & threats give credence to what the Pope had to say?"

I agree with this.

But what I don't agree with is the image of muslims as angry intolerant @$$es who go on killing rampages every day.

the probelm is actually religion is a religion of peace and religious tolerance an here's an article by a jewish israeli politician that confirms this http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html

but the problem is that the terrorists are given a greater voice in the media that moderates, and the current Bush adminestration is taking the power from moderate muslims in the muslims world with it's action.

almost everything the current administration did to fight terrorism, actually ended by empowering A-hole like Osama and Zawaheri. and the pope is adding fuel to the fire with these unnecessary comments.

[Rafal Dudek]

Agreed Eddie. I know a few muslim friends whom are all pissed off at the terrorists doing all those evil things in the name of Islam.

[Gary V.]

The bottom line is the peaceful Muslims need to eradicate the violent fanatics. They have better access to them and could keep U.S. troops off their soil. I know I wouldn't want soldiers from a foreign country patrolling my town looking for Christians who had committed acts of terrorism, but of course we would root them out and detain them or kill them. No excuses or bs, we, America, would stop them. If members of my church were known to be involved in terrorism against Muslim states, they wouldn't last two seconds. The FBI would be informed and they would be imprisoned.

[Shoboy]

The bottom line is the peaceful Muslims need to eradicate the violent fanatics. They have better access to them and could keep U.S. troops off their soil.

Yes, that is the best answer to this whole problem. But with problems comes even more problems, and with this one, the problem is that moderate/peaceful muslims are sitting on thier a**es, Condemning these actions. Like TALK is or has ever done anything with religious fanatics. Having Muslim leaders here in Dearborn MI. TALKING about this is doing NOTHING. Moderates just sit on thier a**.............talking................ and why should they do anything more? They are not targets :grenade: :gun2: :gun4: :gun5: :gun:

[Dragosani]

A Jordanian co-worker once explained how this peaceful religion is justified in its actions. Para-phrase-ing his comments due to how long ago this discussion was held.

Islam is peaceful, the terrorists are 'wahabi-ists' which is a very minor sect that developed a few hundred years after the koran was created. Wahabi teaches that to kill in the name of allan is the greatest way to get those 72 virgins, especially if its infidels. True (he stressed 'true' ) sunni & shiite muslims do not consider the wahabi variant to be true islam.

What was my point? At the moment I forgot :p: . But I did ask him this:
How come the old men that promise these virgins to the young men ( in return for thier suicide ) never seem in any rush to get the virgins for themselves?? It seems that they consider themselves too important in the struggle of islam to be so selfish. How altruistic of them :rolleyes:

[Kingfisher]

While this explains the Wahhabi sect, it doesn't address groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, which are Shiite, not Wahhabi. There are many Muslim terrorist organizations outside of the Wahhabi psychopaths.

Look at the sectarian wars going on in Iraq between Sunnis and Shiites. It isn't isolated to any single sect, it is much larger.

[Rattlesnake8]

Wooooo religion of peace strikes again!

This is becoming stupid. These Muslim extremists just trying to find any reason they can to continue their murdering spree.

Any righteous living Muslim should denounce all the murdering and help stop those extremists because all they do is glorifying that Islam is all about murdering the westerners.

All the practising Muslims i know do denounce all the murdering going on by the extremists and freely express their thoughts and feelings on the matter. They say that the extremists are not religious extremist groups. They are extremist political groups and do not follow the religion of Islam. Which, if you read anything about Islam you will see is true. Islam and Christianity is very similar in that both worship the same God. The main difference is that Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God. In Islam they believe Jesus was a prophet and there was another prophet.. Prophet Mohommad.

[OmegaBob]

Who the heck knocked my name off the top of the heated forum list in the main forum section????

No matter...this post will correct that!

[Rattlesnake8]

:lol: That would have been me.. although you shouldn't post just so you get you name there.. you should post to contribute to the topic. (and your name has now been removed again).

[OmegaBob]

Wow! Thanks for instructing me into the ways of posting on internet forums, oh wise one.

Apparently, HUMOR is something you need to be educated in....

:lol:

[Rattlesnake8]

:rolleyes: Because i think we should stick to the topic rather than posting for the sake of putting your name on the forum index page? It's just as bad as posting only to raise your post count. It's disruptive posting and takes it off topic. I wont be replying to this again as this has taken it to far offtopic already. Id you wish to continue our discussion you can always PM me. :thumbup:

[OmegaBob]

You attack and even joke that my name is gone... then I defend and you get all whiny?

As in all MP games, no one can defeat me!

I win!

Booyah!

[Kingfisher]

Islam and Christianity is very similar in that both worship the same God. The main difference is that Christians believe Jesus was the Son of God. In Islam they believe Jesus was a prophet and there was another prophet.. Prophet Mohommad.

This is incorrect. Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. They are mutually exclusive. Christianity, by definition, is based on the Diety of Jesus Christ. To say that Jesus is simply a prophet, yet the two religions worship the same God, is not possible.

Islam may be Monotheistic, but it is not a religion that worships the Trinity of the Bible.